Poll: When T2 PvP gear should be added?

[Zvyrhol]

For context:

BWL will raise the max rank to 12 and open up the pvp weapons to be purchasable
The epic pvp gear will be out with AQ40

Our roadmap will be updated will all the pvp information soon.

Release dates of the raids are according to https://octowow.st/roadmap.

[Knifewrench]

Giving no pvp upgrade and having pvp set be vastly inferior to pve gear for pvp for 5 to 6 months is kinda a joke imo.

[Brwcht]

I would like to understand the server administration’s logic in this matter. Is this an attempt to level the characteristics of PvP sets with those of PvE sets? But these sets have different purposes. The PvP set has more stamina (a classic characteristic for PvP and useless for PvE) and doesn’t have hit rating for use in PvE. It doesn’t even come in a single copy — many equipment slots have to be filled with PvE items. There are a huge number of PvE sets with corresponding characteristics for PvE. Why do we need a PvP set with 1 additional stat (like 1% crit) like T2 raid sets, to be kept until the release of AQ40, where PvE sets become stronger than T2 PvP? At the same time, with the release of T2 PvP, we also won’t get new epic bracers and belt. AB set is simply not needed with its +6 stamina for level 60 + there aren’t enough BGs to get it quickly enough.

[Knifewrench]

I would like to understand the server administration’s logic in this matter. Is this an attempt to level the characteristics of PvP sets with those of PvE sets? But these sets have different purposes. The PvP set has more stamina (a classic characteristic for PvP and useless for PvE) and doesn’t have hit rating for use in PvE. It doesn’t even come in a single copy — many equipment slots have to be filled with PvE items. There are a huge number of PvE sets with corresponding characteristics for PvE. Why do we need a PvP set with 1 additional stat (like 1% crit) like T2 raid sets, to be kept until the release of AQ40, where PvE sets become stronger than T2 PvP? At the same time, with the release of T2 PvP, we also won’t get new epic bracers and belt. AB set is simply not needed with its +6 stamina for level 60 + there aren’t enough BGs to get it quickly enough.

Reason = pve server existing with powercreeped xfaction buffs. And its shaman tank bis, just delete shaman tanks at this point.

[Brwcht]

I would like to understand the server administration’s logic in this matter. Is this an attempt to level the characteristics of PvP sets with those of PvE sets? But these sets have different purposes. The PvP set has more stamina (a classic characteristic for PvP and useless for PvE) and doesn’t have hit rating for use in PvE. It doesn’t even come in a single copy — many equipment slots have to be filled with PvE items. There are a huge number of PvE sets with corresponding characteristics for PvE. Why do we need a PvP set with 1 additional stat (like 1% crit) like T2 raid sets, to be kept until the release of AQ40, where PvE sets become stronger than T2 PvP? At the same time, with the release of T2 PvP, we also won’t get new epic bracers and belt. AB set is simply not needed with its +6 stamina for level 60 + there aren’t enough BGs to get it quickly enough.

Reason = pve server existing with powercreeped xfaction buffs. And its shaman tank bis, just delete shaman tanks at this point.

If one action can solve many problems, then it should be done.

[Knifewrench]

I would like to understand the server administration’s logic in this matter. Is this an attempt to level the characteristics of PvP sets with those of PvE sets? But these sets have different purposes. The PvP set has more stamina (a classic characteristic for PvP and useless for PvE) and doesn’t have hit rating for use in PvE. It doesn’t even come in a single copy — many equipment slots have to be filled with PvE items. There are a huge number of PvE sets with corresponding characteristics for PvE. Why do we need a PvP set with 1 additional stat (like 1% crit) like T2 raid sets, to be kept until the release of AQ40, where PvE sets become stronger than T2 PvP? At the same time, with the release of T2 PvP, we also won’t get new epic bracers and belt. AB set is simply not needed with its +6 stamina for level 60 + there aren’t enough BGs to get it quickly enough.

Reason = pve server existing with powercreeped xfaction buffs. And its shaman tank bis, just delete shaman tanks at this point.

If one action can solve many problems, then it should be done.

Imo just release it earlyer on yshaarj, shamans dont even have bok here when tanking wich is +10% stam. And we lack xfaction powercreep so wed still be weaker in pve then on nzoth.

[Brwcht]

Reason = pve server existing with powercreeped xfaction buffs. And its shaman tank bis, just delete shaman tanks at this point.

If one action can solve many problems, then it should be done.

Imo just release it earlyer on yshaarj, shamans dont even have bok here when tanking wich is +10% stam. And we lack xfaction powercreep so wed still be weaker in pve then on nzoth.

It’s important to understand that there are two things that limit the acquisition of a PvP gear set for players in PvE. First, it’s the rank and its ability to decrease — it’s not easy to get a high PvP rank unless you work hard at it. Second, you need a decent amount of honor points to purchase the entire set, and this leads us to the conclusion that if a player devotes enough time to PvP to earn honor points and a rank, they have the right to be considered a PvP player and to use PvP items as they wish.

[Dzielkus]

If one action can solve many problems, then it should be done.

Imo just release it earlyer on yshaarj, shamans dont even have bok here when tanking wich is +10% stam. And we lack xfaction powercreep so wed still be weaker in pve then on nzoth.

It’s important to understand that there are two things that limit the acquisition of a PvP gear set for players in PvE. First, it’s the rank and its ability to decrease — it’s not easy to get a high PvP rank unless you work hard at it. Second, you need a decent amount of honor points to purchase the entire set, and this leads us to the conclusion that if a player devotes enough time to PvP to earn honor points and a rank, they have the right to be considered a PvP player and to use PvP items as they wish.

I'd also rise up time consumed - MC/BWL will take about an hour each (good raid group, find one if u will spend there more than 1.5h) to be cleared and get a chance to gear up.
Yeasterday on very sucessful AV day i got 2.4k honor/hour.
It is peak amount i've gained so far.
So for 1 item you need 10h of such farm, which is rather quite rare. So it's more about 15-20h of BG per one tier 2 pvp item. For whole set is more or less 100-120hours.

On the other hand pvp is something completly different from pve.
I'm personally never using pvp items on pve (on amber i had 4/6 t2 pvp tier+ab set for PvP and t0/t2/bwl offsets for PvE) but rather the opossite. Pve gear works quite well on pvp.
For me it doesnt make any sense to delay relese of pvp items. There might be few who will use them in pve but i think it will be minority.